Conway’s Wizards Generalized
Here I repeat the Conway’s Wizards Puzzle from a previous posting:
Last night I sat behind two wizards on a bus, and overheard the following:
— A: “I have a positive integral number of children, whose ages are positive integers, the sum of which is the number of this bus, while the product is my own age.”
— B: “How interesting! Perhaps if you told me your age and the number of your children, I could work out their individual ages?”
— A: “No.”
— B: “Aha! AT LAST I know how old you are!”Now what was the number of the bus?
It is obvious that the first wizard has more than two children. If he had one child then his/her age would be the number of the bus and it would be the same as the father’s age. While it is unrealistic, in mathematics many strange things can happen. The important part is that if the wizard A had one child he couldn’t have said ‘No’. The same is true for two children: their age distribution is uniquely defined by the sum and the product of their ages.
Here is a generalization of this puzzle:
Last night I sat behind two wizards on a bus, and overheard the following:
— Wizard A: “I have a positive integral number of children, whose ages are positive integers, the sum of which is the number of this bus, while the product is my own age. Also, the sum of the squares of their ages is the number of dinosaurs in my collection.”
— Wizard B: “How interesting! Perhaps if you told me your age, the number of your children, and the number of dinosaurs, I could work out your children’s individual ages. ”
— Wizard A: “No.”
— Wizard B: “Aha! AT LAST I know how old you are!”
Now what was the number of the bus?
As usual with generalizations, they are drifting far from real life. For this puzzle, you have to open up your mind. In Conway’s original puzzle you do not need to assume that the wizard’s age is in a particular range, but once you solve it, you see that his age makes sense. In this generalized puzzle, you should assume that wizards can live thousands of years, and keep their libido that whole time. Wizards might spend so much of their youth thinking, that they postpone starting their families for a long time. The wizards’ wives are also generalized. They can produce children in great quantities and deliver multiple children at the same time in numbers exceeding the current world record.
Another difference with the original puzzle is that you can’t solve this one without a computer.
You can continue to the next step of generalization and create another puzzle by adding the next symmetric polynomial on the ages of the children, for example, the sum of cubes. In this case, I do not know if the puzzle works: that is, if there is an “AHA” moment there. I invite you, mighty geeks, to try it. Please, send me the answer.
In case you are wondering why the wizard is collecting dinosaurs, I need to point out to you that John H. Conway is a superb puzzle inventor. His puzzle includes a notation suggestion: a for the wizard’s age, b for the bus, c for the number of children. Hence, the dinosaurs.
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