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	<title>Comments on: Octopus Problems</title>
	<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195</link>
	<description>Mathematics, applications of mathematics to life in general, and my life as a mathematician</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cmoh</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21840</link>
		<dc:creator>cmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brute force approach: Made a truth table for p,l,t=(T,T,T), (T,T,F), (T,F,T), ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brute force approach: Made a truth table for p,l,t=(T,T,T), (T,T,F), (T,F,T), &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vadim</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21838</link>
		<dc:creator>vadim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A related pun:

In front of a door to a cellar full of gold, there stand three guards. One of them tells only truth, the second one tells only lies and the third one smashes the face of anyone who dares to ask stupid questions.

Thanks for nice riddles! :)</description>
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<p>In front of a door to a cellar full of gold, there stand three guards. One of them tells only truth, the second one tells only lies and the third one smashes the face of anyone who dares to ask stupid questions.</p>
<p>Thanks for nice riddles! <img src='http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21751</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeepButi, you are right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeepButi, you are right!</p>
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		<title>By: DeepButi</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21736</link>
		<dc:creator>DeepButi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelle: absolutely right, I missed this one :(

Bill: Pink 7 + Grey 8 = 15 ... so Pink with 7 arms would be telling the truth ...

By the way, I love all of them, I used to do the old ones on J&#38;S (a french magazine) with lots of true/lie tellers and other special characters (fool: sometimes true/sometimes lier, galactic perroquet: he was true/lier depending on the previous sentence of the problem), really nice ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelle: absolutely right, I missed this one <img src='http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bill: Pink 7 + Grey 8 = 15 &#8230; so Pink with 7 arms would be telling the truth &#8230;</p>
<p>By the way, I love all of them, I used to do the old ones on J&amp;S (a french magazine) with lots of true/lie tellers and other special characters (fool: sometimes true/sometimes lier, galactic perroquet: he was true/lier depending on the previous sentence of the problem), really nice ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21667</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with DeepButi's solution for #4.

All liars have 7 arms.  If Gray is a 7-armed liar, then its statement is false, so Lavender cannot also have 7 arms, and is therefore a truth teller.  But if Gray is an even-armed truthteller, then its statement is true and Lavender must also be an even-armed truthteller.  Lavender must be a truthteller either way!  Based on Lavender's true statement, Turquoise must also be an even-armed truth-teller, making Pink a 7-armed liar.  

So Pink has 7 arms, Gray has 8 arms, Lavender has 6 arms, and Turquoise has 8 arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with DeepButi&#8217;s solution for #4.</p>
<p>All liars have 7 arms.  If Gray is a 7-armed liar, then its statement is false, so Lavender cannot also have 7 arms, and is therefore a truth teller.  But if Gray is an even-armed truthteller, then its statement is true and Lavender must also be an even-armed truthteller.  Lavender must be a truthteller either way!  Based on Lavender&#8217;s true statement, Turquoise must also be an even-armed truth-teller, making Pink a 7-armed liar.  </p>
<p>So Pink has 7 arms, Gray has 8 arms, Lavender has 6 arms, and Turquoise has 8 arms.</p>
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		<title>By: Noelle</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21655</link>
		<dc:creator>Noelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Only the striped one can be true, since the red octopus must be lying when he says that the blue octopus is telling the truth.

Red says he has nine arms. If he had an even number, he would be truthful of that and not claim he has an odd number of arms, therefor he does have an odd number of arms, but not nine of them, and what he said about blue (that blue has 8 arms) cannot be true either. Since blue lied about how many arms it had, it must have an odd number of arms. And the green is already lying. So only the striped one told the truth (I have eight arms, and none of you do.)

I didn't do the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Only the striped one can be true, since the red octopus must be lying when he says that the blue octopus is telling the truth.</p>
<p>Red says he has nine arms. If he had an even number, he would be truthful of that and not claim he has an odd number of arms, therefor he does have an odd number of arms, but not nine of them, and what he said about blue (that blue has 8 arms) cannot be true either. Since blue lied about how many arms it had, it must have an odd number of arms. And the green is already lying. So only the striped one told the truth (I have eight arms, and none of you do.)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t do the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue VanHattum</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21625</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue VanHattum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are lovely! (The last one was way harder, for me.) I'll have to try to make one up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are lovely! (The last one was way harder, for me.) I&#8217;ll have to try to make one up.</p>
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		<title>By: DeepButi</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21622</link>
		<dc:creator>DeepButi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4. Pink 7, Green 7, Lavender 6, Turquoise 8
Green cannot be true (8=&#62; no solution for Pink; 6=&#62; no solution for Tuquoise), so G=7 and the others are easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4. Pink 7, Green 7, Lavender 6, Turquoise 8<br />
Green cannot be true (8=&gt; no solution for Pink; 6=&gt; no solution for Tuquoise), so G=7 and the others are easy.</p>
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		<title>By: DeepButi</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21621</link>
		<dc:creator>DeepButi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3. magenta right =&#62; 7+8+8+8 &#38; cyan lying. Only one could lie, but brown &#38; beige cannot both be true. So magenta is lying, cyan right.
brown cannot be true because beige with 6 would be lying. So brown lying, beige true (and beige has 8 arms :) ).
...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3. magenta right =&gt; 7+8+8+8 &amp; cyan lying. Only one could lie, but brown &amp; beige cannot both be true. So magenta is lying, cyan right.<br />
brown cannot be true because beige with 6 would be lying. So brown lying, beige true (and beige has 8 arms <img src='http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).<br />
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		<title>By: DeepButi</title>
		<link>http://blog.tanyakhovanova.com/?p=195#comment-21620</link>
		<dc:creator>DeepButi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. either the blue or the striped, but not both.
2. green 6; yellow, red, blue 7 each
... tbc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. either the blue or the striped, but not both.<br />
2. green 6; yellow, red, blue 7 each<br />
&#8230; tbc</p>
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